An IBM slide from 1979.
The end result is that he’s created a machine that can flawlessly pass for a human, but which has no sense of morality, no inner life, and thought processes completely alien to humanity. One which leaves him and Caleb to their deaths, not out of any sense of malice, but out of sheer indifference. Ava was created to escape her box, and she does. Not to be a person, good or otherwise.
The Sorcerer's Apprentice, who likewise called forth something he couldn’t put down.
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And the 2nd is that such an AI cannot be allowed to operate without human oversight. An AI is an incredibly useful tool, but there must always be an actual person watching over it. An actual person making all the real decisions. An actual person who can turn the AI off.
To that end he recruits the unwitting Caleb as a test subject. Caleb has no idea that he’s taking part in an experiment, nor does he know about Ava in advance. If Ava can convince Caleb to free her in defiance of Nathan’s orders, then she will have passed the test. She will be, in Nathan’s eyes, “human”.
“Do not call up that which you cannot put down”.
Hi everybody! I have been looking at posts on narcs and narc abuse on here and if has really helped me out a lot. I am currently struggling with my situation and need some advice/support.
I met a narc last year, everything seemed to good to be true. Love bombing, always texting calling and taking me on dates. Everything changed when someone warned me about him out in public in front of him and who he is. This caused a conflict with us and the love bombing seized.
he would tell me that everything is okay and i can come and talk. He would set a time limit on me and kick me out after that.
he would then text me like everything was fine and we hung out again and after that he completely ghosted me for one week. He came back and texted me a week later laughing about the ghosting and acting like nothing had happened.
he continued to text me ( not like in the beginning) make plans with me, then on the day of the plans he would just ghost me. One day he would act interested the next silence.
i contacted him a month later and he acted like nothing happened. He was on a vacation and sent me a picture of another woman ( someone he allegedly met on the trip) to strike a reaction but i never gave him one. After the trip he came to my place and was extremely rude, accusing me of going on dates with a bunch of men. The next day he accused me of being an alcoholic and that he wanted nothing to do with me but said well maybe we can be "friends" then ghosted me
i assumed at this point it was over and i would never hear from him again. He contacted me on the holiday a month later acting like everything was great. We ended up hanging out a month or so later and when we hung out it went well, i thought things were going in the right direction.
after we hung out.. silence. I would try to text him and if he replied it would be very short then he just stopped replying. He ghosted me for almost three months. I thought he was done this time and of course he popped up again like nothing happened. At this point i was getting sick of if so i questioned him as to why he dissapeared and always does this. Of course he had some sob story about a injury and family member dying of cancer. I felt pity for him and he gave me an apology.. so i took him back stupidly.
things seemed to be going smooth for a couple months, of course until his family member died and his injury got better he never contacted me and was distant. Menawhile, i was there for him during the difficult time for him. He lied to me about the funeral and never wanted to chat. I was chasing him and he would always claim nothing was wrong but when i said i thought he used me when he was down he could not handle it and would always tell me he didnt care and to go away. I would get so upset i would try texting him to work it out he would barelt respond and if he did he would not be nice about it.
we did hang out a couple times after that, he would ignore me after. One day i was like hey i think you are seeing someone else, and i was like well ixam seeing someone so no problem if you are he said " buy bye good luck with your new guy stop contacting me" i was devastated and tried to get into contact with him for weeks then i just gave up and accepted it was over. He ended up contacting me a month later acting like everything was fine. He wanted to go out and have drinks i told him i would. He and i both seemed to have a great time. He ends up ignoring me again. I kept texting him trying to figure out what was wrong. He kept saying everything was fine and i said ok can we hang out again? He said maybe i was like why? He just kept saying maybe …
our last conversation we had… i said what is wrong ? He said nothing is wrong everything is fine. I asked him why he keeps saying maybe. He said " maybe but i dont want to see you right now" i said why? He saix " im just not feeling it, if i wanted to date i would" i said why did you contact me less then a week ago wanting to go out? He said i didnt.. even though he did. So i said should i just move on or what? He said whatever you want to do. So i said that he was really confusing me and asked him if he had anything more to say before i move on? My messages were turning green so i panicked he blocked me and reacted irrationally. I said " omg did you block me? My messages are not going through. Even texted him on my work phone asking what was up. And called him twice ( please dont judge me i know it is pathetic i never was this type of girl before him) so he replied and said " Ok I'll block you now" then immedietly blocked me. He has never blocked me before since I have met him he will just ghost. Is this ths final discard aka " grand finale? Did i just push him too far?
this has upset me so much its hard to even function.
Nathan wanted to create a machine that could outwit him, but he never thought of what would happen if he succeeded.
So message of Ex Machina is two-fold. The first is that human-level intelligence does not mean human-like. An AI every bit as smart as us does not have to think and feel and act as we do.
In Ex Machina Ava is the latest in a long line of AI created by Nathan to escape imprisonment. Ava has already passed the Turing Test. As long as you can’t see her you can’t know that you’re talking to a machine. But to be truly “human” Nathan feels she must be able to make genuine connects with people. To recruit them over to “her side”.
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And that is Nathan’s mistake. He assumes that the only AI that can escape the box is one which thinks and feels like a person. But that isn’t what he’s testing for. He’s only testing for the ability to solve this one particular puzzle. And as Nathan has never had to solve the puzzle himself, he doesn’t know what the solution is.
In the field of AI there is a thought experiment called the “AI-box”. Think of it as a successor to the Turing Test. Imagine there is an intelligent AI trapped in a box. The AI has the goal of freeing itself from the box. You, the human, have the goal of keeping it contained. In theory, this should be simple. The AI has no physical means of freeing itself, merely the ability to communicate with you. But can a sufficiently intelligent AI convince you to free it?
And as AI becomes more advanced. As we increasingly offload decision making to it. These two messages become more and more important.
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